tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post4634733814195160744..comments2023-10-11T03:58:48.429-07:00Comments on Gospel of Hockey: Oilers Chances - Games 1 to 10Scott Reynoldshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05735545121522530577noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-61011252119488016122009-10-25T19:01:43.571-07:002009-10-25T19:01:43.571-07:00Bruce: JFJ is definitely a bust so far this year. ...Bruce: JFJ is definitely a bust so far this year. I think he's improved some since moving down the lineup and the Oilers have enough injuries that they can't sit him down so he'll get a chance to work himself into a role he can handle.<br /><br />Dennis: I'd like to see how Horc's new line does against toughs before throwing the experiment out the window. If 27-89-83 can click over the long haul it's worth using Horc and two others to give them some shelter if we can find two others that can handle it.Scott Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05735545121522530577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-72640096613552330462009-10-25T18:28:28.902-07:002009-10-25T18:28:28.902-07:00God I hate it when you guys use numbers instead of...God I hate it when you guys use numbers instead of names. <br /><br />Can't you add a column for name, or even initials, so that those of us who don't fill have scorecards memorized can get in on the fun.sacamanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17284509888169983899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-63652626956397813002009-10-25T17:33:35.893-07:002009-10-25T17:33:35.893-07:00Scott, thanks for the link. Great work and analys...Scott, thanks for the link. Great work and analysis again!<br /><br />As for Brule, when you group him among certermen, he doesn't appear to be particularly struggling. Excluding qualcomp/team obviously, he ranks 2nd to Gagner and ahead of Cogliano and Horcoff. Of course, he has played fewer games.<br /><br />Stone's a bit of a surprise from having watched him play. Perhaps he's benefited from having played fewer games as well as the relative quality of his linemates vs. opposition.Hockey Noobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12887818344597943742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-40848716332082903812009-10-25T12:59:36.045-07:002009-10-25T12:59:36.045-07:00Hockey Noob: It's hard to see but the link for...Hockey Noob: It's hard to see but the link for 2009-10 stats is on the left side bar. At any rate, here's a link to the main stats page for 2009-10:<br /><br />http://www.behindthenet.ca/stats_2010.htmlScott Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05735545121522530577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-62140999069682973382009-10-25T12:02:09.979-07:002009-10-25T12:02:09.979-07:00Scott, thanks for this.
One question, how have ...Scott, thanks for this. <br /><br />One question, how have you been able to pull this year's data at behindthenet? When I navigate from the main website, I can only get access to last year's data? Also, if you have a link for the latest data for Oilers forwards at behindthenet, please post it.<br /><br />cheers!Hockey Noobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12887818344597943742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-793567083454370662009-10-25T11:34:40.850-07:002009-10-25T11:34:40.850-07:00You take these numbers and put them with QualComp ...<i>You take these numbers and put them with QualComp and I think we have our answers.</i><br /><br />Dennis: Yeah, eventually. Make room for QualTeam too. It's too soon for those to mean much, they're all over the map early in the season due to their interactive, results-based nature. Right now JFJ has the worst QualTeam of any Oiler forward, and he's spent most of his time with 10 and 83. Gabe himself says you need 20 or 30 games for those numbers to start meaning a whole lot, although I for one am satisfied that they're decent indicators over a full season.<br /><br />Scoring chances OTOH are counting numbers which are useful right from the get-go.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-2499067135503247412009-10-25T10:15:03.451-07:002009-10-25T10:15:03.451-07:00First off, thanks again, Scott. You take these num...First off, thanks again, Scott. You take these numbers and put them with QualComp and I think we have our answers.<br /><br />I know everyone's caught up in the new 83 line but I still think the answer for the Oil is to have the 10-83 combo playing the toughs and hopefully sawing off and then the 27-89 combo taking on the secondary crew.<br /><br />And while I really think 5 would be fine no matter who he played with, there's no question that 71<br />'s the man when it comes to this metric.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09130711642386374186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-27695621883737301812009-10-25T10:04:55.184-07:002009-10-25T10:04:55.184-07:00Thanks for this, Scott (and Dennis). Although they...Thanks for this, Scott (and Dennis). Although they didn't play together 100% of the time, I think this confirms that the JFJ with Horc and Hemmer experiment was a bust, as all three have terrible numbers. JFJ is a horrible defensive player and isn't exactly filling the net to make up for it despite his golden opportunity.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01190620732067746768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-786169163374631693.post-7745056448969464062009-10-25T07:38:37.282-07:002009-10-25T07:38:37.282-07:00>"...and it's changing what people not...>"...and it's changing what people notice"<br /><br />This is the most profound comment I have read in months. Seriously. We all have confirmation bias and selective memory, then we wave our arms and proclaim what we imagine is truth, backed up by what we noticed and retained. <br /><br />Thank you for your cogent thoughts.Zookeeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07454330013436283393noreply@blogger.com